Who Do You Say Jesus Is?    

Dr. Larry Thorson
November 1, 2009  

 

Mark 8:27-38

 

27 Jesus and his disciples went on to the villages around Caesarea Philippi. On the way he asked them, "Who do people say I am?"

    28 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, one of the prophets."

    29 "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
       Peter answered, "You are the Messiah."

    30 Jesus warned them not to tell anyone about him.

 

Today’s New International Version Copyright © 2001, 2005 by International Bible Society

         

            A few weeks ago on my vacation/study leave week in San Jose, my daughter and I drove up to San Francisco on a Saturday to spend some time with her close friend she grew up with in Dallas and now lives in San Francisco. 

        When we met with Sarah in the City I asked her if she had been going to church so she invited us to walk over and see where she worships.  She attends the Sunday night contemporary worship service at a relatively large or at least wealthy Episcopal Church in her neighborhood.  But as much as she loves her church, she lamented to us how difficult it was to meet Christians her age in San Francisco even though the service she attends is actually aimed at her age group.  She, like our daughter at her Long Beach church, are the few their age attending church. 

        But what I saw in Pacific Heights of San Francisco and Long Beach are thousands of that generation walking the sidewalks, buying lattes and attending concerts.   One place they’re not is in church. 

        Earlier that day I went on a long walk with a minister friend of mine, Jim Tirone, who has been the associate pastor of the Presbyterian Church in Milpitas for 32 years.  Recently his church opened a first rate coffee house similar to a Starbucks which stays open 24/7 from 7:00 am to 9:00 pm.  This coffee shop is designed to attract the 20 somethings who have little interest in church.   They’ve also launched one day a week mini Vacation Bible School events in two of the public schools as after school programs.  They offer over 30 English as a Second Language courses, a separate worship service for middle school and high school on Sunday mornings and a different service for college and career aged people on Sunday nights.  Jim lamented several times to me how hard they have to work and how much money they have to spend just to win the right to talk to young people about Jesus Christ. 

         Back in San Francisco, as Kari, Sarah and I sat in the Squat and Gobble restaurant on Chestnut St, I wondered what all those 20 somethings walking by say Jesus is.  Why do they act as if he’s so irrelevant to their lives?    

        In our text today Jesus and his disciples were in a similar place to San Francisco.  In verse 27 we read ”Jesus and his disciples went on to the villages around Caesarea Philippi.” Caesarea Philippi had once been a big center for Baal worship.  Old temples were all over the city.  It had been renamed for the ruling political Caesar when he took it over and demanded to be worshipped as the supreme one instead of Baal.  So Jesus…”On the way he asked them, ‘Who do people say I am?’"  28 “They replied, ‘Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, one of the prophets.’"

        Those were interesting and significant choices.  John the Baptist, Jesus’ cousin had been a prophet of God whose head was cut off by the very Caesar honored in that city because he preached against his infidelity.  I think there was some fear in that city that God would raise him from the dead and retaliate against them for the beheading.  Elijah had been a prophet of God who never died but was carried right up to heaven, his body never found.  The assumption among Jews was that he would someday return.  Notice that the option of Jesus being God or even the son of God was never mentioned. 

        Every day that you get up, you have options or choices about what and who you’re going to believe.  Some of those choices will be influenced by those you’re around.  In the America of the 1950’s most Americans were raised to believe that they needed to go to a Christian type church.  They were taught that Jesus was the son of God.  They weren’t made aware of the choices we hear today about what to believe.  Sunday morning was church time, period. 

But everyone has choices, whether you know it or not.  That’s what Jesus was pointing out with his question.  There were many choices to believe in Caesarea and many opinions to have regarding Jesus.

         “But who do you say I am.” Peter answered, "You are the Messiah." I find it interesting that of all the disciples who were with him, only Peter is recorded as answering him.  It was a relatively good answer.  You are the Messiah. 

        Most of us are not Jewish and the title Messiah doesn’t mean a lot to us.  But to Peter the Messiah was a conquering political savior who would overcome the political Ceasars.  What Jesus said next countered what Jews believed the Messiah would be like. 

        31 He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again. 32 He spoke plainly about this, and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him.

        Now that took a lot of guts (or stupidity) on Peter’s part to rebuke somebody like Jesus.  But what Jesus said got Peter upset and when you’re upset often something is going to be said and it’s usually not good.  To Peter’s credit he at least didn’t go to James and say “Did you hear what Jesus said?”  He also didn’t confront him publicly.  It says he “took him aside and began to rebuke him.”

        But what Jesus said was the opposite of what Peter always understood a Messiah to be.  In Peter’s background every Jew would be behind the Messiah and that would be proof he was the Messiah.  Anything short of that was disillusionment.  That’s sort of like when our President appeared on the Tonight Show.  Some people were disillusioned because that hasn’t been our presidential picture. 

        Disillusionment is when your reality differs from the picture you have of something.  Back in the day when I first gave my life to Christ there was a popular little booklet called “The Four Spiritual Laws” produced by Campus Crusade for Christ.  I used it all the time and even memorized it.  It’s one of the few things I can still remember word for word.  It’s a great tool. 

The Four Spiritual Laws starts out by saying; “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life.”  As you read the booklet you find out that you can’t know that wonderful plan unless you pray to receive Jesus Christ into your heart. 

        It is true that God has a wonderful plan for our life but the wonderful plan for me I thought in those days just had to include a college scholarship in track and field.  What I didn’t know is that after we accept Christ our lives would probably take a nose dive and bad things would happen to us.  Friends would reject us.  Career options would fall apart.  Relationships might tank.  We would have to give up harmful things that we treasured like smoking weed.  But as God is shaping and molding us into a new image, painful pruning has to take place.  A lot of new Christians find themselves disillusioned with following Christ because they can’t see God’s long term wonderful plan or what they see doesn’t match up with their expectations of a wonderful plan.

    33 But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. "Get behind me, Satan!" he said. "You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns."

          Wow, get behind me, Satan?  How would you like to be called Satan?  By Jesus himself?  It is possible at any given moment for anyone of us to speak the words of Satan, God’s archenemy.  It just takes getting off base a little bit.  If Peter believed that Jesus was to be the Messiah and his understanding of a Messiah was a political conqueror, then Peter was going to be off base.  Just because you’ve been right on most of the time doesn’t mean that you’re always going to be right on.   

          34 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 35 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me and for the gospel will save it. 36 What good is it for you to gain the whole world, yet forfeit your soul? 37 Or what can you give in exchange for your soul? 38 If any of you are ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of you when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."

        I want you to notice that Jesus didn’t rebuke Peter in public.  Verse 34 says “then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples…”  Jesus never humiliates someone to get a point across.  If you’re humiliated in public, that’s not Jesus doing it. 

The second thing I want you to notice is that no matter how relevant we try to make Jesus Christ in order to attract people who don’t want to follow him, the bottom line Jesus says is “whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross (or their concerns) and follow me.”  Everybody has something that needs to go in their life. 

        Today Jesus is asking each one of us: Who do you say that I am? It doesn’t matter that the hundreds of 20 somethings in San Francisco or Hemet don’t know who Jesus is, that’s just unfortunate.  What matters is who you say Jesus is. 

Maybe your life has had some disappointments.  Things haven’t turned out like you hoped they would.  Even church hasn’t turned out like you envisioned it to be.  That wonderful plan Jesus supposedly has for your life has been everything but wonderful.

Think of these years of your life on this earth as a construction zone.  There are construction supplies piled up on the lawn, rusty, dirty work trucks in the driveway, construction debris including even beer cans and cigarette butts scattered about.  But if you gave your heart to Jesus, progress is being made.  When this life is over, construction will be done and we’ll be a completed image of God. 

Who do you say Jesus is?  More importantly who does your life say that Jesus is?  What is it that Jesus is calling you to give up?  It’s eternally important to get the first one right, and then not only to believe Jesus is Messiah, Savior, and Lord, but also to live it out each day.  Amen.